BUT…  Most people WILL BE sent to hell, according to the Bible. People who have already had their debt to Biblegod paid in full and canceled. People whose sins have been washed “whiter than snow” in the blood of the lamb. People who, in Biblegod’s eyes, are perfect and innocent due to the death of Jesus. These people will roast in hell- forever.

CONCLUSION:   Biblegod is sending to “debtors prison” billions of people whose debts have already been paid.

$$$  The Wages of Sin $$$

IF   the penalty for sin is  eternal torture/separation  from Biblegod
BUT   Jesus suffered torture/separation for only 3 days
THEN   Jesus didn’t pay the full penalty for sin.

THEREFORE   all Christians are STILL IN THEIR SINS!!!!! At the best, they’ve only had 3 days knocked off their sentence of eternity.
Let’s do the math…  Eternity – 3 Days = Eternity!!!
Yup, you guys are sooooo screwed!!!

note: these are not fro me, but statements from others

According to the Bible, Old AND New Testament, every claim needs to be established by at least two to three witnesses before it should ever stand a chance of being accepted as fact.A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. (Deut. 19:15 NIV)
Every fact is to be confirmed by the testimony of two or three witnesses.  (2nd Cor 13:1 NASB)
Given that, where were the witnesses to confirm Moses’ claim about God handing him a chiseled list of commandments on top of Mt. Sinai? He made a claim that God gave him tablets of stone containing The Ten Commandments. Where are the witnesses? There were none, for according to his own story, he was alone- by himself, no one else around- when God supposedly did this. There was no one to corroborate his extraordinary claim. Based upon that admitted FACT and what the Bible demands about how claimed facts are to be handled, the Ten Commandments should be thrown into the nearest dumpster, for as it stands now, the entire Ten Commandments rests upon the uncorroborated say-so of a single, solitary man The apologist will claim that Deut. 19:15 applies only to situations where God himself is not establishing the validity of a truth via the miraculous. In other words, they knew Moses was God’s messenger because he was able to perform miracles. Sound familiar? It should; this is what Nicodemus says about Jesus in John 3.  According to Christian theology, God can’t die, Jesus equals God, therefore Jesus can’t die- can’t cease to exist- and he didn’t, not in any real sense of the word. According to the Bible, when everyone thought he was dead he was actually hanging out in hades for three days having discussions. Therefore all that really happened was Jesus (i.e. God) went thru alot of pain for just a couple of hours, this pain is what must have “paid the debt of sin for all mankind”. And since God suffering pain is what did the trick, God could have just as well hit his own thumb with a hammer to presto-chango erase the sins of mankind, in which case Christians would all be wearing little hammers around their necks today! Christians claim that Jesus, the “second Adam”, Jesus the “perfect human”, died for sins. But according to Christian theory, his “divine” half couldn’t die, his “soul” couldn’t die, and neither could his “spirit”. Then what part of Jesus died to pay off this supposed debt of sin? Will Christians respond his other half, his body?  His HUMAN body? But it WASN’T human, was it, Christian? According to your theory, Jesus was only a half-breed, only HALF human. Sure, Jesus had a human mother, but his father was an extra-terrestrial  space alien from way beyond the clouds who raped Mary (who was already engaged to be married) and somehow got her pregnant. So IF it took a god to die to “pay off the debt”, seeing how gods CAN’T die by definition, that god theory goes up in smoke. On the other hand, if it took a perfect human to die to “pay off the debt”, Jesus was NOT human, by any stretch of the DNA, so therefore could never be a PERFECT human, just as a pig could never be a perfect dog. In fact, at best, he was only one-quarter human. Think of it this way: four quarters = a whole. If two quarters of Jesus (i.e. 1/2 of him) were god, that leaves the remaining half of Jesus a human being. But how did this “human half” of Jesus come about? Of this remaining half, this human-looking body, only half of it (i.e. 1/4 of the whole) could actually be human (via Mary’s DNA) while the other 1/4th of it was Biblegod DNA- definitely NOT human. So Jesus was no more a “perfect human” than Arnold the Pig could ever be a perfect dog, cow, or whale. At BEST, only 1/4th of Jesus could be physically human, with the other 3/4ths being non-human.

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1. a charismatic leader who increasingly becomes an object of worship or center of attention as the general principles that may have originally sustained the group lose their power. 
2. a process I call coercive persuasion or thought reform; brainwashing
3. exploitation of group members by the leader and the ruling coterie.

There is an attempt to manage an individual’s inner communication. Often the leader creates an increasingly intense sequence of events such as seminars, lectures, focusing upon others while lifting up himself, and encounters which makes leaving him extremely difficult, both physically and psychologically. A second characteristic of Johnny Robertson a cult leader is mystical manipulation or planned spontaneity. This is a systematic process through which the leader can create in cult members what I call the psychology of the pawn. The process is managed so that it appears to arise spontaneously; to its objects it rarely feels like manipulation. Further aspects of Johnny Roberston a cult leader are “sacred science,” “loading of the language,” and the principle of “doctrine over person.” Sacred science is important because a claim of being scientific is often needed to gain plausibility and influence in the modern age.. The term loading the language’ refers to literalism and a tendency to deify words or images by running clip after clip and repeating words after words – sort of like how the local legalist play their mini clips and repeat them over and over, to push them in your head.  Often behavior is virtually automatized, language reduced to rote and cliche, yet the cult member expresses a certain satisfaction or even happiness?  

“The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us, (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,)  by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.” Misconception #1: “Baptism Is Only a ‘Figure”‘ The first misunderstanding is that n’ that one has already” Baptism is only a figure; it is merely a ’sign that one has already  been saved.” As we have heard others also say, who believe that baptism is irrelevant to salvation, “Baptism is just an outward showing of an inward grace.” It’s true that the Bible does use many figures, shadows, or types that represent things of a much greater nature: Romans 5:14, for example, speaks of Adam as “a type of Him [Jesus] who was to come.” But what is this “figure” of 1 Peter 3: 21 referring to? To find the answer, we need to back up to the previous verse, which speaks of the flood of Noah’s day. It is the flood that is the figure for the water of Bible baptism. The New International Version makes this very clear: “…eight in all, were saved through water, and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you…” (vv. 20,21). The New American Standard Bible says, “and corresponding to that, baptism now saves you. …” Corresponding to what? Again, it is referring back to the flood of Noah’s day, as mentioned in the previous verse, in which eight persons “were brought safely through the water.” Baptism, therefore, is not the type; but rather it is the antitype. It is what the shadow ( of the flood) is pointing to. The New King James Version, incidentally, states, “There is also an antitype which now saves us, namely baptism…..”Just as the eight souls in the ark were separated from the world of sin by the waters of the flood, which eliminated that sinful world, the waters of baptism separates a person from his own sins and brings him out from a sinful realm into the righteous kingdom of God’s dear Son (Col. 1: 13) because baptism (along with faith and repentance) puts one into contact with the blood of Christ and the benefits of the Lord’s atonement (cf, Rom. 6:3,4). Misconception #2: “Filth” Means “Sin” A second false notion many have about 1 Peter 3: 21 is that “the filth”  spoken of is referring to sin; and then they continue by saying that  “Since baptism does not remove the filth of the flesh, then it doesn’t remove sin.” Again, though, using other Bible translations will be helpful to better understand what this “filth” is standing for. The Revised Standard Version and the New International Version refer to “the filth of the flesh”  as ” dirt from the body. “  The New American Standard says, “dirt from the flesh.” Therefore, this “filth is not sin; but, rather, it is dirt”; and the point being that baptism saves–but not merely by getting clean in the water It saves as an appeal to God for a clear conscience. When Ananias told Paul in Acts 22: 16 to wash away his sins through baptism, it wasn’t the water that could literally do that; it was the blood of Jesus. But even the concept of being washed by the blood of Christ is figurative, for the forgiveness actually takes place in the mind of God when we meet His righteous demands that will enable us to benefit from the Lord’s atonement. Still, though, water baptism is one of the steps necessary to benefit from Calvary . We can also liken this to Naaman’s need to dip seven times into the Jordan River to be healed of his leprosy (2 Kings 5). Surely, it wasn’t merely the water of this muddy river that healed him; but, nevertheless, it is what the Lord required of him to be healed–just as God requires of the alien sinner to be baptized into water to have sins forgiven. Misconception #3: “Answer” Lastly, many people have misunderstood I Peter 3:21 on the basis of the word “answer.” As part of the verse says, “the answer of a good conscience toward God. “ Perhaps they feel that by “praying a sinner’s prayer,” the answer” they receive will result in a good conscience and their salvation. We need to point out, however, what this term ” answer” really means. For many who use only the King James Version and have never heard this term defined before, it might come as a surprise. According to Vine, the Greek word for “answer” “was used by the Greeks in a legal sense, as a “demand or appeal.” Bullinger defines it as “a question, an asking; enquiry after, seeking by enquiry .”It, therefore, appears to be just the opposite ( an enquiry)  than how many would view it (as an answer). Baptism, therefore, is “an appeal to God for a clear conscience,” as the Revised Standard Version states. The New American Standard Bible and the New English Bible also use the term “appeal.” The New Berkeley Version has “earnest seeking,” and The American Standard Version has “interrogation.” So baptism saves as a means whereby one is making his “appeal to Go for a clear conscience”; and since “appeal” also means ” a call for aid, support, mercy, etc. , an earnest request or entreaty, ” then we can conclude that baptism is part of the means whereby one “calls” on the Lord. As Peter had stated many years prior, in quoting Joel’s prophecy, “…everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved” (Acts 2:21). They called in Acts 2 by believing, repenting, and being baptized (vv. 36-38). And this is also why Paul was told by Ananias to “…Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name” (Acts 22: 16). The good conscience, which has been cleansed by the blood of Jesus ( cf, Heb. 9: 14), comes after one has been baptized into Christ to then rise to “walk in newness of life” (Rom. 6:3,4); and 1 Peter 3: 21 certainly makes it clear that this salvation is not possible until one is first baptized.